In the first Talk The Line we went round Shura's house for some red wine and chat. The architect of some of the best pop music we've heard these last few years, Shura is obsessed with space and has a deep love of Christopher Nolan's 2014 movie Interstellar. Host Jen Long joins her to mull over time, the universe and just why Matt Damon keeps getting left in space. Along the way they attempt to piece together the laws of physics without using Google.

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