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6Music: Leading the fight or losing its way?

Posted on 29 February 2008 by Ro Cemm

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On the 11th March 2002, the BBC launched its first new national music station in 32 years. That station was BBC6 Music, and with it came a slogan: “Closer To The Music That Matters”. The station was to be a sister station to Radio Two, and was supposed to provide an alternative to the more mainstream, youth orientated Radio One. Often featuring archive recordings from the BBC’s extensive collection, or championing new talent in live sessions, many saw the station as carrying on the tradition of the great, sadly missed John Peel. The stations reputation quickly grew, with presenters who were consider knowledgeable in their field, be it funk, reggae, indie rock or ska. As it approaches it’s 6th Birthday listening figures are at a record high, showing an increase of 110,000 year on year. As digital radio receivers become cheaper, these figures look set to continue to rise. Yet beneath the surface, it appears all is not well with the station.

In late 2007 6Music was embroiled in the BBC’s competition rigging scandal when it emerged that producers had played the role of competition winners on Liz Kershaw’s show. It was later revealed that there were problems with quizzes on Tom Robinson and Clare McDonnell’s shows as well. As a result of this the stations head of programming, Ric Blaxhill resigned his post. His position is yet to be filled and leaves the station in the hands of Lesley Douglas, the controller of both Radio 2 and 6Music. Many questions have been raised about Douglas, not least the question of why one person should be able to control two stations. Douglas has already proved to be a controversial figure, appointing Chris Evans to the drive-time on BBC 2 in 2006 and her equally controversial decision to give comedian and Big Brother presenter Russell Brand his own 6Music show in March 2006 before catapulting him over to BBC 2 in November of the same year. Many of her appointments have been high profile ‘celebrity’ disc jockeys, seemingly moving away from the knowledgeable remit of 6Music and moving towards a ‘dumbed down’ station that Radio Four’s own ‘Feedback’ programme dubbed “Radio One and a half”. The shifting of emphasis to celebrity should not come as a surprise from Douglas, who seems to rely on established celebrity to boost ratings, rather than bringing people through from the grass roots (it was she who purchased ‘Bob Dylan’s Theme Time Radio Hour’, and who brought in Brad Pitt to voice a documentary on Nick Drake). It is one of her most recent appointments, however, that has become a pressure point for Douglas, and has seen listeners moved to bombard the BBC’s messageboards, create petitions and generally cause discomfort to the BBC’s top brass, drawing attention from the likes of the Media Guardian and various online publications in the process. The person in question? George Lamb.

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Before embarking on his media career, George Lamb had been a manager of both Audio Bullys and a fledgling Lily Allen. Since deciding a media career was more his style, Lamb has quickly grown into a presenting phenomenon, appearing on television on TMF, E4, as the host of ‘Celebrity Scissorhands’ and reality show “The Restaurant” on BBC2. Like fellow Lesley Douglas appointees Shaun Keavney, Nemone, Dermot O’Leary and Russell Brand, Lamb is represented by the John Noel Agency (the agency who deals with Big Brother related minor celebrities, and also with the Friday Night Project. It is also worth noting that Noel’s son Nik Linnen also represents Douglas appointees Queens of Noize). Even regular ‘stand in’ presenter, comedian Alan Carr, is part of the Noel stable. When asked for an explanation as to why so many appointments had come from one agency, and whether Lesley Douglas has any link with the John Noel Agency, the BBC did not respond.

It has also become apparent that Douglas has been using 6music to ‘groom’ her talent for the higher listenership and more mainstream content of Radio Two. First Russell Brand was given a show on 6Music, only to jump ship to Radio Two months later. Both Shaun Keavney and Nemone have also been filling an ‘understudy’ role at 6Music’s sister station. It has been suggested that George Lamb will also shortly be ‘acting up’ also, either to Radio Two or Radio One, with many suggesting he is being groomed to fill the large gap that will be left when Chris Moyles hangs up the microphone on the stations flagship Breakfast show. The increasing use of 6Music to act as a breeding ground for the BBC’s other music channels has led to the channel losing its sense of identity. The station no longer seems to provide the educated, informed, music related commentary that it had become known for. The replacement of Gideon Coe with George Lamb seems to have been the final straw for many listeners.

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Lamb brought with him to the mid-morning slot a ‘posse’ of friends, not seen since the dark days of DLT. Gone was the knowledgeable, music based chat, to be replaced with inane banter, catchphrases and features about who is, or isn’t, wearing the right ‘clobber’. Although the quality of the guest artists has remained the same, Lamb comes across at a loss, either through too little research or merely being out of his depth as an interviewer. After one ‘catastrophic’ interview with Super Furry Animals, the internet began to simmer with dissent about Lamb’s show. By November 2007 there was already a Facebook group dedicated to the dislike of Lamb’s show. Message boards began ringing with criticism of Lamb’s style as “sub-Whiley “Wow, that’s amazing” and sub-Moyles “Aren’t these people idiots”, describing the show as “Heat or Nuts on the Radio”. It was also observed that Lamb’s show seemed to consist of more chat and ‘features’ than music. The underlying feeling in all these comments is that Lamb will undoubtedly be a success elsewhere, but that he does not fit within 6Music’s remit. Still, the show goes on, and Lamb continues to rise heckles. The 6Music website has been so besieged by criticism of Lamb that moderators were forced to consolidate all the criticism of Lamb into one group, stating: “We will not tolerate people being rude or offensive about any of our presenters.” Tellingly the first response to this posting was “will you still tolerate any ‘rude and offensive’ presenters?” As the listeners campaign continues, other media have begun to cover the story, with Media Guardian running coverage of the campaign. Lamb’s show, meanwhile, has started hosting “Cravat Wednesdays” and asking it’s audience questions such as “who would win a fight: Chuck Norris or a Honey Badger?” A new dictionary of “Lamby’s Lingo” was added to the BBC website, to enable the listeners to decipher the ‘banter’ on the show. This dictionary features explanations for such ‘choice’ phrases as: ‘wafty’, ‘wackola’, and most tellingly ‘New’, which in Lamb’s lingo is a “ derogative term for something insignificant.”

A petition started at www.getlambout.org.uk claimed that Lamb’s show stood “ against what we believed 6Music stood for — i.e. quality broadcasting, cutting edge music, insightful interviews and knowledge of music…[we] hope that this isn’t an indication of where 6Music is headed in the future.” A brief glance at Lamb’s BBC website, which fails to mention music once on it’s homepage, favouring instead subjects such as ‘Estate Olympics’ and downloadable catchphrases for your mobile phone, is enough to make you question whether the show is fulfilling the 6Music remit. In early February 2008, the anti-Lamb petition hit 1000 signatories. In the same week station controller Lesley Douglas appeared on Feedback, Radio 4’s version of ‘Points of View’, to defend the station against accusations of ‘dumbing down’ in order to chase ratings, with George Lamb’s show in particular a subject of discussion. Sadly, as always seems to be the way, Douglas was on the defensive, claiming “Developing a new show is always going to take a long time. We have received positive and negative comments about it. I don’t think I have ever launched a new show when that has not been the case.” However, what followed this defensive statement may well prove to be just as provocative as Lamb himself.

During the interview, Douglas claimed that in employing Lamb she was trying to redress the gender balance of the station, and to try and make it as open to female listeners as it is to male. Claiming that “Men tend to be more interested in the intellectual side of the music, the tracks, where albums have been made, that sort of thing”, where as women connect more with the emotional side of music, Douglas seemed to suggest that by changing the way in which it talks about music the station would be able to attract more female listeners. The appointment of Lamb, and his nods to fashion and celebrity gossip is a part of this process it seems. Unsurprisingly, Douglas’ use of casual gender stereotyping has caused uproar amongst the very people the interview was supposed to placate- in fact, if anything, it has increased the pressure on 6Music. Once again the BBC’s message boards are awash with criticism for the station. A typical example from the ‘Feedback’ message board reads: “Lesley Douglas is way out of touch with 6 music listeners. I am an avid music listener and am appalled that she assumes females aren’t interested in the minutiae of music and all things related to music… Daytime radio on 6Music is pretty much unbearable at the moment, George Lamb being the most moronic presenter to date.”

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If Douglas is really trying to attract more women, it appears going for the ‘celebrity’ market and the 90’s lad style of George Lamb simply isn’t going to cut it with her existing audience. Perhaps it would benefit Douglas to cast her eye over the 6Music messageboards and see the suggestions that her supposed target market are making; if you want to attract female listeners, find some intelligent female presenters, and put them on at times when people can actually listen. It would also seem that the listeners don’t care if it is a man or a woman, as long as they provide a good mixture of music and a minimum of ‘chat’. After all, the stations tagline is ‘Closer to the Music that matters’, not ‘closer to the gossip’.

Sadly it looks like Lesley Douglas will be taking no heed of the complaints of her listeners. A recent interview with The Independent on Sunday seems to suggest that 6Music will continue down the celebrity path. During the interview, Douglas sited the appointment of Russell Brand as the turning point of the station claiming “people started to think it could be more than ‘music experts’”. It also seems that Douglas will continue to rely on pre existing celebrity, rather than encouraging new talent to the station, claiming the only change she would make to the 6Music line up would be to bring in Never Mind The Buzzcocks host Simon Amstell. Despite all the criticism of recent months, it looks likely that Lesley Douglas will continue to move 6Music away from its roots as a station of music for music’s sake ,and that the station will become yet another Radio 2: A station that favours celebrity over broadcasting talent, and comedians over people with a passion for music.

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20 Comments For This Post

  1. Jude Says:

    I used to adore 6Music, and listened through from Phill Jupitus > the godlike Gideon Coe > Vic McGlynn > Lammo. It soundtracked my working day! It is extremely telling that nowadays I scarcely “listen live”, and instead use the listen-again feature on the BBC website so that I can listen to Gideon Coe (shamefully ‘demoted’ to the late-night slot), Marc Riley, Adam and Joe - anything ANYTHING except that objectionable idiot Lamb. Truly unlistenable, and it makes me absolutely furious, as a woman, to be told that he was brought in to appeal to the likes of me - aaaargh.

    This all just makes me so sad and disappointed. Thanks for the article, and letting me vent!

  2. Mrs Mutton Says:

    Text/ e mail protest any lyrics from ‘Panic’ by The Smiths at 11 am on Monday 3rd March to George Lamb’s show on BBC 6 Music:

    To protest text:
    64046

    or e mail:
    george.6music@bbc.co.uk

    More George fun
    http://www.myspace.com/getgeorgelamboff6music
    Facebook has 850+ fans on the get george lamb off 6music page….more than the actual george lamb fanpage
    http://www.georgelamb.net

    Lastly, I’d like to thank Lesley Douglas for being a recruiting sergeant for the cause…the petition shot up after her R4. Cheers Love xx

  3. Eduards Says:

    Lesley Douglas need to go!!! If she don’t want to then BBC “HEAD” need to fire her!!! This nonsense must stop!!!

  4. Nigel Says:

    Some wag on the 6 Music message board has suggested that the station’s motto should now be “closer to the sidekicks that chatter”.

  5. clarker Says:

    I think the Russell Brand thing is a bit of a red herring - his show was great. Russell Howard is a poor replacement. I can see why George Lamb got to fill the housewives slot - he is part of Douglas’s terrible plan to make 6 into XFM without adverts. How Nemone got a job is anyone’s guess.

  6. Alex Says:

    does this mean we can get rid of Shaun whathisname at beakfast time too?

  7. ro Says:

    clarker-
    Nemone got the job, because she is part of the John Noel Management agency….she has also, since leaving radio 1, been on Big Brother as a guest…hmmm…

    Russell brand’s show is ok- and better on radio 2 than 6. Dermot O’leary’s show in itself isn’t that bad- it does what it says on the tin- he seems a like-able enough guy. Even Lamb would be OK on Radio 1….
    6 music and 1xtra are both supposed to be specialist stations….however, if someone like lamb came on with his lack of knowledge of the music he is playing on 1xtra he would be laughed out of court.

    As for the suggestions that Lamb talks passionately about Dance and Rave….that’s great- but unless you are going to give him a show where he actually play’s dance or rave then it doesn’t do any good. When he played ESG he did seem genuinely enthused….

  8. LJ Says:

    Fitting that this article appears on a page with a side-bar declaring the “End of Radio”, as 6 Music does seem to be unravelling before our ears. I bought a DAB for the sole purpose of listening to the station and now I find it completely unlistenable daytime. Bring back Phil and Gid because this is rubbish.

  9. themagicmonkey Says:

    The problem isn’t the use of celebrities per se - Phill Jupitus was an excellent and much-missed breakfast host, although I do rate Shaun Keaveney a lot more than many people because I find his tone right for the early mornings. Craig Charles’ funk show, Stephen Merchant on Sundays and Adam and Joe on Saturday mornings are all wonderful shows and if their hosts don’t know as much about music as Lamacq and Coe, they make up for it by being a delight to listen to. The problem is specifically George Lamb, who not only knows nothing about music but is such a terrible DJ I’ve actually been driven back to Jo Whiley on R1. Although I enjoy Gideon Coe in the evenings, when I actually have a chance to properly listen to him rather than have it on the background, replacing him with Lamb is just spitting in the faces of people who want a proper grown-up music station. Nemone is no great shakes either, although she is listenable I can’t say I’d miss her if she went to R2.

  10. gigill Says:

    Hey there – this is Gillian here from TheLipster.com, the new sharp and smart pop culture website for women. Here’s a link to an article on the site about Lesley Douglas’s comments here: http://www.thelipster.com/articles/2943839

    If you’d like to add to the discussion please do sign up for the site and have a look around while you’re at it.

    Enjoy!

    Gillian x

  11. Jim Says:

    We’ll forget these other bitter listeners, I say tune into another station, I like George Lamb and team, give him a chance they are very funny and make a nice diversion for a few hours, if you have a digital radio you have a huge choice of stations that should cover all pallets!, so quit your whinging and enjoy it.

  12. Kieth Says:

    Jim, what a pointless post. You’re missing the point totally. There are plenty of options if I want to listen to inane nonsense. That’s what made 6Music so good. And now it’s not.

  13. Tont Says:

    In all fairness, George Lamb has his place on radio, just not on 6Music and, as the article rightly says, the station shouldn’t be used as a training ground for future mainstream stars. The station is (was) strong enough already in its remit of quality, knowledgeale music, and having Brand, Lamb et al associated with it in the future will only damage the image.

    Far worse, though, is that the awful Natasha is still there every Sunday. She manages the trick of sounding as though she has never spoken into a mic before… every single week! not funny, not interesting, not listening.

  14. hlacey Says:

    the quality has noticeably slipped…but bob dylan’s theme time radio hour is great, and the documentary on nick drake was pretty good as well.

  15. John Says:

    Aw, shame I missed the 3rd of march, flooding a radio show’s text service with “Hang the DJ” is possibly the best protest idea I’ve ever heard! I’ll have to use that one in future, Jeremy Vine certainly deserves a “suspended sentence”.

  16. John Says:

    Incidentally it looks like what they’re doing with radio 6 DJs is exactly what they’re doing with BBC3 comedy - test it out on the lower-audience/lower-risk digital service, if it’s popular upgrade it to the mainstream. Basically anyone who has a clear interest in new, interesting comedy or music is being used by the BBC as a guinea pig for their majority viewers.

  17. Chris Hart Says:

    I used to love listening to 6music - from Phil, through Gideon to Vic, and on to Andrew Collins, it was a great daytime lineup. Now, I hate to say it, but I’d rather listen to Radio 1. George Lamb has no place on 6music, and they’ve lost me as a listener because of all these changes.

  18. Oz Says:

    Re: the John Noel Management Mystery. I did extract a statement from Anthony Bellekom, managing editor of 6, before the shutters cam down on that one. Tell me where to email it to, and I will

  19. Simon Collis Says:

    I actually quite enjoy listening to George Lamb, but he doesn’t belong on 6Music. Local radio, maybe, or radio 1, yeah, but the “posse” and silly features do seem like vague imitations of Steve Wright or Chris Evans.

  20. alfonso capone Says:

    The final straw for me was when gideon coe was axed and that joke of a dj lamb was brought in.This is how much i hated the daytime line up, i went and purchased a recordable dab.Now my daytime line up is marc riley followed by the absolutely fantastic gideon coe,plus a once a week listen to the extremely talented guy garvey.For me happy days are here again and i highly recommend spending about £100 for a recordable dab.You can then choose your own daytime line up,because for me daytime 6 music is unlisternable.

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