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	<title>Comments on: Silverchair &#8211; Young Modern</title>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/2007/09/silverchair-young-modern/#comment-13377</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a joke. I can&#039;t even be bothered to point out the waste that is this review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a joke. I can&#8217;t even be bothered to point out the waste that is this review.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/2007/09/silverchair-young-modern/#comment-11011</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do mostly agree with Simon Gurney, however there is a limit to how far you can take &#039;subjectivity&#039;. The more subjective a review becomes, the more irrelevant it is to the wider public. As Rich Thane said: &quot;it’s really irrelevant whether anyone agrees with Shawn’s review or not&quot; - does Shawn write these reviews for his enjoyment then, so the opinions of we readers do not count?

Also how can you possibly defend being &#039;wrong&#039; with a claim of being subjective and opinionated? If I was to publish an editorial explaining my views on how smoking prevents cancer, the fact that it is only an opinion does not mean that being incorrect is any more &#039;acceptable&#039; or &#039;valid&#039;. &quot;Silverchair have as much chance of regaining the popularity they once enjoyed as England have of retaining the Rugby World Cup&quot; - but of course, I have the benefit of hindsight do I not?

Finally, all this talk about opinions etc. does not remove the fact that this review is just plain badly written. The only actual mention of any aspect of the music in Young Modern is the complaint about the rhyming of &#039;day, way, say and grey&#039; - as much as I would be impressed by the rhyming of daytime, path. speak, and grey - alas that is not how &#039;rhyming&#039; works.

Really, Shawn Murtough isn&#039;t providing his opinions, he is just complaining. Too bad having to read through it isn&#039;t much fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do mostly agree with Simon Gurney, however there is a limit to how far you can take &#8216;subjectivity&#8217;. The more subjective a review becomes, the more irrelevant it is to the wider public. As Rich Thane said: &#8220;it’s really irrelevant whether anyone agrees with Shawn’s review or not&#8221; &#8211; does Shawn write these reviews for his enjoyment then, so the opinions of we readers do not count?</p>
<p>Also how can you possibly defend being &#8216;wrong&#8217; with a claim of being subjective and opinionated? If I was to publish an editorial explaining my views on how smoking prevents cancer, the fact that it is only an opinion does not mean that being incorrect is any more &#8216;acceptable&#8217; or &#8216;valid&#8217;. &#8220;Silverchair have as much chance of regaining the popularity they once enjoyed as England have of retaining the Rugby World Cup&#8221; &#8211; but of course, I have the benefit of hindsight do I not?</p>
<p>Finally, all this talk about opinions etc. does not remove the fact that this review is just plain badly written. The only actual mention of any aspect of the music in Young Modern is the complaint about the rhyming of &#8216;day, way, say and grey&#8217; &#8211; as much as I would be impressed by the rhyming of daytime, path. speak, and grey &#8211; alas that is not how &#8216;rhyming&#8217; works.</p>
<p>Really, Shawn Murtough isn&#8217;t providing his opinions, he is just complaining. Too bad having to read through it isn&#8217;t much fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Thane</title>
		<link>http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/2007/09/silverchair-young-modern/#comment-10890</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Thane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The people who&#039;ve got an issue with this review should run off and seek out the Air Traffic review! But then again, I doubt they have any fans to jump to their defence...

In regards to this comment &quot;So either you have not critically examined Shawn’s review, or you accept and/or share his views. Do you mean to say that the merit of a site such as this should be judged by ignoring its worst examples?&quot;

Well - it&#039;s really irrelevant whether anyone agrees with Shawn&#039;s review or not. It&#039;s Shawn&#039;s opinion, and if he wants to talk about the Rugby instead of the music then thats fine by me - that in itself speaks a million words about how bad the music is..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people who&#8217;ve got an issue with this review should run off and seek out the Air Traffic review! But then again, I doubt they have any fans to jump to their defence&#8230;</p>
<p>In regards to this comment &#8220;So either you have not critically examined Shawn’s review, or you accept and/or share his views. Do you mean to say that the merit of a site such as this should be judged by ignoring its worst examples?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well &#8211; it&#8217;s really irrelevant whether anyone agrees with Shawn&#8217;s review or not. It&#8217;s Shawn&#8217;s opinion, and if he wants to talk about the Rugby instead of the music then thats fine by me &#8211; that in itself speaks a million words about how bad the music is..</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Gurney</title>
		<link>http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/2007/09/silverchair-young-modern/#comment-10884</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Gurney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and clearly you enjoy being wrong.&quot; - Shaun

It&#039;s not even about being wrong or right, though. It&#039;s an opinion, a subjective thing. Whether you agree or disagree with the way the reviewer thinks about music is what makes a criticism &quot;valid&quot;. There is very little science about it. (This is all my opinion, by the way. Also, sorry if it seems I am being a little aggressive towards you, it&#039;s just something I feel strongly about.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and clearly you enjoy being wrong.&#8221; &#8211; Shaun</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not even about being wrong or right, though. It&#8217;s an opinion, a subjective thing. Whether you agree or disagree with the way the reviewer thinks about music is what makes a criticism &#8220;valid&#8221;. There is very little science about it. (This is all my opinion, by the way. Also, sorry if it seems I am being a little aggressive towards you, it&#8217;s just something I feel strongly about.)</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Gurney</title>
		<link>http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/2007/09/silverchair-young-modern/#comment-10882</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Gurney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shaun, I think it&#039;s more down to the idea of Rich and Rich respecting that the writers are individuals who are giving analysis, opinions and critiques. The writers are on this site because both Rich and Rich think they are good at giving analysis, opinions and critiques. They don&#039;t necessarily have to agree with all the views all the writers have, its more about finding value in the ability to elucidate how they view the album/artist in question.(I think, maybe).

I accept that Shawn Murtough has this point of view, I can understand someone may feel this way about an album, any album.

(In retrospect it&#039;s quite funny how close England DID come to retaining the rugby world cup.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shaun, I think it&#8217;s more down to the idea of Rich and Rich respecting that the writers are individuals who are giving analysis, opinions and critiques. The writers are on this site because both Rich and Rich think they are good at giving analysis, opinions and critiques. They don&#8217;t necessarily have to agree with all the views all the writers have, its more about finding value in the ability to elucidate how they view the album/artist in question.(I think, maybe).</p>
<p>I accept that Shawn Murtough has this point of view, I can understand someone may feel this way about an album, any album.</p>
<p>(In retrospect it&#8217;s quite funny how close England DID come to retaining the rugby world cup.)</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/2007/09/silverchair-young-modern/#comment-10877</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 08:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Rich Hughes, I&#039;m sorry that I&#039;ve lumped everyone at this site under this review of &#039;Shawn Murtough&#039;, however I did assume you would have implemented some sort of quality control system - surely if a review gets published here it is because you deem it to be valid and of acceptable standard? So either you have not critically examined Shawn&#039;s review, or you accept and/or share his views. Do you mean to say that the merit of a site such as this should be judged by ignoring its worst examples?

Please don&#039;t go down the same path as Pitchfork Media...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Rich Hughes, I&#8217;m sorry that I&#8217;ve lumped everyone at this site under this review of &#8216;Shawn Murtough&#8217;, however I did assume you would have implemented some sort of quality control system &#8211; surely if a review gets published here it is because you deem it to be valid and of acceptable standard? So either you have not critically examined Shawn&#8217;s review, or you accept and/or share his views. Do you mean to say that the merit of a site such as this should be judged by ignoring its worst examples?</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t go down the same path as Pitchfork Media&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wahoo</title>
		<link>http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/2007/09/silverchair-young-modern/#comment-10740</link>
		<dc:creator>Wahoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 13:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for sharing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for sharing!</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/2007/09/silverchair-young-modern/#comment-10704</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shaun - in answer to your &quot;now I realise these &#039;reviews&#039; you have here are just meaningless jokes&quot;, surely you realise this is just one writers view on one album. How that influences all the other reviews on this site I struggle to understand. 

One review does not a site make - whether that review is good or bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shaun &#8211; in answer to your &#8220;now I realise these &#8216;reviews&#8217; you have here are just meaningless jokes&#8221;, surely you realise this is just one writers view on one album. How that influences all the other reviews on this site I struggle to understand. </p>
<p>One review does not a site make &#8211; whether that review is good or bad.</p>
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		<title>By: BSSFan</title>
		<link>http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/2007/09/silverchair-young-modern/#comment-10702</link>
		<dc:creator>BSSFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calm down everyone; it&#039;s a typo - Shawn Murtough just forgot the 00&#039;s ;), and ignore the text.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calm down everyone; it&#8217;s a typo &#8211; Shawn Murtough just forgot the 00&#8242;s ;), and ignore the text.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/2007/09/silverchair-young-modern/#comment-10701</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a fantastic review, if only to serve as an example of flawed criticism, and &quot;what not to do&quot; in an Album Review. That 1% is hilarious, perhaps I had been taking your views too seriously; now I realise that these &quot;reviews&quot; you have here are just meaningless jokes.

Of course in the highly improbable chance that I am incorrect, and that your reviews ARE meant to constitute meaningful criticism - everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and clearly you enjoy being wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fantastic review, if only to serve as an example of flawed criticism, and &#8220;what not to do&#8221; in an Album Review. That 1% is hilarious, perhaps I had been taking your views too seriously; now I realise that these &#8220;reviews&#8221; you have here are just meaningless jokes.</p>
<p>Of course in the highly improbable chance that I am incorrect, and that your reviews ARE meant to constitute meaningful criticism &#8211; everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and clearly you enjoy being wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/2007/09/silverchair-young-modern/#comment-10695</link>
		<dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 05:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The lack of ideas, energy and cutting edge&quot;, you have got to be kidding. the album, is infact, the exact opposite of that statement. i dont think i have ever heard an album with so many ideas executed as well as young modern. 

silverchair wouldn&#039;t want your 1%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The lack of ideas, energy and cutting edge&#8221;, you have got to be kidding. the album, is infact, the exact opposite of that statement. i dont think i have ever heard an album with so many ideas executed as well as young modern. </p>
<p>silverchair wouldn&#8217;t want your 1%.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/2007/09/silverchair-young-modern/#comment-10691</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty vague criticisms. Would you like to substantiate them with any kind of informed opinion? The fact that you think the riffs are big (I think that&#039;s what youre implying), and that there is a lack of ideas is proof you never really listened to the music anyway, but rather the band through your biased perception of them. 1%, eh? this &quot;review&quot; would be laughed out of any serious literary circle. If you want to give a negative review at least do it properly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty vague criticisms. Would you like to substantiate them with any kind of informed opinion? The fact that you think the riffs are big (I think that&#8217;s what youre implying), and that there is a lack of ideas is proof you never really listened to the music anyway, but rather the band through your biased perception of them. 1%, eh? this &#8220;review&#8221; would be laughed out of any serious literary circle. If you want to give a negative review at least do it properly.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Murtough</title>
		<link>http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/2007/09/silverchair-young-modern/#comment-10687</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Murtough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marge,

TLOBF is always on the look out for new writers so by all means if you fancy writing a few reviews then get in Touch. Its not as easy as you might think. Great when you get a decent album that gives you something to write about, but not so good when you are sent something that in every sense is a load of old cack. 
Of course to form an opinion you have to actually listen to it in the first place, but lets face it if everyone enjoyed the same things life would be pretty forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marge,</p>
<p>TLOBF is always on the look out for new writers so by all means if you fancy writing a few reviews then get in Touch. Its not as easy as you might think. Great when you get a decent album that gives you something to write about, but not so good when you are sent something that in every sense is a load of old cack.<br />
Of course to form an opinion you have to actually listen to it in the first place, but lets face it if everyone enjoyed the same things life would be pretty forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Marge</title>
		<link>http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/2007/09/silverchair-young-modern/#comment-10686</link>
		<dc:creator>Marge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one percent? Is this meant to be a joke?
Seriously... you need to actually listen to an album to review it or at the very least mention the name of a song.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one percent? Is this meant to be a joke?<br />
Seriously&#8230; you need to actually listen to an album to review it or at the very least mention the name of a song.</p>
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